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From: Banibrata Dutta <banibrata.dutta@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2020 00:03:31 +0530
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Subject: Re: CPU#0 stuck for 22s
To: Wolf <wolf@wolfsden.cz>
Cc: PICCORO McKAY Lenz <mckaygerhard@gmail.com>, Riccardo Mottola <riccardo.mottola@libero.it>, 
	alpine-user <alpine-user@lists.alpinelinux.org>
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On Wed, Nov 18, 2020 at 11:38 PM Wolf <wolf@wolfsden.cz> wrote:

> On 2020-11-17 08:04:17 -0400, PICCORO McKAY Lenz wrote:
> > I suggest NOT USE LAST! just try first alpine 3.10 .. in my personal
> > xperience i used alpine 3.8 with some packages of alpine 3.10 (like
> > firefox) cos the kernel:
>
> This is very poor advice, in general packages compiled for one version of
> alpine do not have to work when executed in different version of alpine.
> They might work, they might not work. But it's best not to rely on that.
>
> As a side note, alpine 3.8 is EoL-ed for quite a while now.
>
> > people must think: why must I upgrade if are perfectly working? *Do you
> > know guys that newer linux kernels cut off support for many older devices
> > and machines?*
>
> Could you please provide some links to back this claim up? I'm not
> aware, so would like to learn more.
>

Interesting question. This had come up when I was looking for a driver for
a very old pre-UVC webcam I had, and due to Covid-19 triggered scarcity had
to make use of it.
Perhaps this one: https://lwn.net/Articles/769468/ that comes close enough,
I suppose, to be non-anecdotal and from an authority figure.
There are other anecdotal references to such trimming, but those are not
backed by specific statements from Linux kernel developer community AFAIK.

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail=
_attr">On Wed, Nov 18, 2020 at 11:38 PM Wolf &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:wolf@wol=
fsden.cz">wolf@wolfsden.cz</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gma=
il_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,2=
04,204);padding-left:1ex">On 2020-11-17 08:04:17 -0400, PICCORO McKAY Lenz =
wrote:<br>
&gt; I suggest NOT USE LAST! just try first alpine 3.10 .. in my personal<b=
r>
&gt; xperience i used alpine 3.8 with some packages of alpine 3.10 (like<br=
>
&gt; firefox) cos the kernel:<br>
<br>
This is very poor advice, in general packages compiled for one version of<b=
r>
alpine do not have to work when executed in different version of alpine.<br=
>
They might work, they might not work. But it&#39;s best not to rely on that=
.<br>
<br>
As a side note, alpine 3.8 is EoL-ed for quite a while now.<br>
<br>
&gt; people must think: why must I upgrade if are perfectly working? *Do yo=
u<br>
&gt; know guys that newer linux kernels cut off support for many older devi=
ces<br>
&gt; and machines?*<br>
<br>
Could you please provide some links to back this claim up? I&#39;m not<br>
aware, so would like to learn more.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Int=
eresting question. This had come up when I was looking for a driver for a v=
ery old pre-UVC webcam I had, and due to Covid-19 triggered scarcity had to=
 make use of it.<br></div><div>Perhaps this one: <a href=3D"https://lwn.net=
/Articles/769468/">https://lwn.net/Articles/769468/</a> that comes close en=
ough, I suppose, to be non-anecdotal and from an authority figure.<br></div=
><div>There are other anecdotal references to such trimming, but those are =
not backed by specific statements from Linux kernel developer community AFA=
IK.</div><br></div></div>

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