Received: from mail-lf1-f68.google.com (mail-lf1-f68.google.com [209.85.167.68]) by nld3-dev1.alpinelinux.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 36564781B9A for <~alpine/users@lists.alpinelinux.org>; Tue, 20 Oct 2020 21:27:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-lf1-f68.google.com with SMTP id 184so3929235lfd.6 for <~alpine/users@lists.alpinelinux.org>; Tue, 20 Oct 2020 14:27:48 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=GtI+9FQ46jFSaw9jUKU5LBBiRW18pi+Td3QG6FbXFkA=; b=NNiHKBgVEek3w5Sei1CgmZSJGUiYdxRiYIRjRnJLWnOmto1Bz5EDZv2xi1ElLps5LR lzoj8aBJvxhPa5MpUxqOQiSj8uerCnw4xuSR+V/4T27Rrahfdc1f/k9cbVH5KbOBI5fl HyrbNsC9o5Y1yWicHGb6iSpqmUTM8U93fHsYR6fYSn+9K7bq2X2Qq7aLMkNTY3+yi6l1 iizOq5vwVbThhW0jrMUMwg4pkYp9diiy8lHE3SIXwyHQRXDenQGi9UBwFx/IyoeNXd4e equModbaSXmpwIaGShaxQCvFqH8PUMyn8/fQELy4cNOb/juZXlRqp20qgPvkvQ5/vNwB JoXg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=GtI+9FQ46jFSaw9jUKU5LBBiRW18pi+Td3QG6FbXFkA=; b=rubkqwT+MHzF/Aug9/3ot8HNvHDmPEVU6DbBCnu5ftJjXTUjOEU9/TlgRy7e91DJan 6teXVUXL89rP5D+i7UUcGISAj9ysRFtwPmig29cbN1D1vcIr1J4tpuJ2r3E/mAqckQey wVdugMa9RILaDd4ie+1ZvtKeWFDPrKlH6XBIfIXBon/Fhblo1X4K/74vCqOaaxc1KIZQ GDvtHpM/NBCLqdmvolpqqf4Z1l6eh+juWOrTMTndoquBonwbNeAyDnGl6qlHXUXKu1nK 46iXF1TD0g+evJj7wDqJhrJb3GP8td0A5TWg7xj+Dnx1j6Ve6tD9ug9CkVzTnkPlBoMO W31Q== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM531ZrYlsBfl4y/hbqegYnFhfpWANPuyR2eys02ohIry3znEFGD+Y //5TuwZCclW1/dZWoZrAqFkGTtNFGO15eBBAHOWwO7o2mT6uGg== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJz/2azFvccbVEmmGUQeLbvjoHBOv9O+6za92r0nWnAXkkV2Zaoqo/PR0Yj5+6ch1/EjETBGwEJHwBpgRIRCzJk= X-Received: by 2002:a19:94:: with SMTP id 142mr7384lfa.577.1603229267277; Tue, 20 Oct 2020 14:27:47 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20201019040339.0333029c@enterprise> <20201020131451.7qpqveuwm4ekcyol@wolfsden.cz> <09CDD2B5-1337-4316-B21C-F7B5758C1672@malikania.fr> In-Reply-To: <09CDD2B5-1337-4316-B21C-F7B5758C1672@malikania.fr> From: PICCORO McKAY Lenz Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2020 17:27:36 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: wayland support vs xorg support in alpine! To: ~alpine/users@lists.alpinelinux.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000f83c9705b220e67a" --000000000000f83c9705b220e67a Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable El mar., 20 de oct. de 2020 a la(s) 10:08, David Demelier ( markand@malikania.fr) escribi=C3=B3: > > On 20 Oct 2020, at 15:37, PICCORO McKAY Lenz > wrote: > > Alpine policies is not to remove =E2=80=9Coutdated=E2=80=9D features in f= avor of modern > alternatives. We do remove things that are totally obsoleted and no longe= r > used but since libx11 is still a major requirement it will stay. > That is a total lie, gtkglext was removed and is necessary for many software today, i send a mail with a hard disgusting respond respect that! > > so then, there's no preference, if world will kill X11 so alpine will > kill X11 right? > > Don=E2=80=99t panic, X.Org won=E2=80=99t disappear anytime soon. Wayland = although stable > is still experimental in many areas where bugs still exist. It=E2=80=99s = not usable > on all OS (excluding Linux) as such X.Org will stay for a long time being= . > For example, it is still quite experimental to run wayland on FreeBSD (ma= ny > freezes) and not even supported on OpenBSD. > is a logic behavior.. > Even though X.Org is an unloved system, it is still required right now. > pardon me! but xorg lived so much respect wayland > > -- > David > --000000000000f83c9705b220e67a Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
El mar., 20 de oct. de 2020 a la(s) 10:08= , David Demelier (markand@malikania= .fr) escribi=C3=B3:
> On 20 Oct 2020, at 15:37, PICCORO M= cKAY Lenz <m= ckaygerhard@gmail.com> wrote:
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Alpine policies is not to= remove =E2=80=9Coutdated=E2=80=9D features in favor of modern alternatives= . We do remove things that are totally obsoleted and no longer used but sin= ce libx11 is still a major requirement it will stay.
T= hat is a total lie, gtkglext was removed and is necessary for many software= today, i send a mail with a hard disgusting respond respect that!
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> = so then, there's no preference, if world will kill X11 so alpine will k= ill X11 right?

Don=E2=80=99t panic, X.Org won=E2=80=99t disappear anytime soon. Wayland al= though stable is still experimental in many areas where bugs still exist. I= t=E2=80=99s not usable on all OS (excluding Linux) as such X.Org will stay = for a long time being. For example, it is still quite experimental to run w= ayland on FreeBSD (many freezes) and not even supported on OpenBSD.
is a logic behavior..=C2=A0
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Even though X.Org is an unloved system, it is still required right now.
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pardon me! but xorg lived so much=C2=A0respect wayland

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David
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