Received: from mail-lj1-f177.google.com (mail-lj1-f177.google.com [209.85.208.177]) by nld3-dev1.alpinelinux.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 11E07781AE9 for ; Fri, 8 May 2020 19:26:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-lj1-f177.google.com with SMTP id l19so2860277lje.10 for ; Fri, 08 May 2020 12:26:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=4tU/3jDvpFkjARNVIW3YW4ligPsCY0zP+aKTHm1xfms=; b=XkhY0k/WoXrknFQkPygKDqAjIdQGZvcgvQj7o1fkppiMDIS7bQj6jI6VESdkO4aqOx X/wEHMpXASaMaK6u2aeZDdgMuQYInWC0BTCdcb9OQkdMfRNsbSa//HE9+vlnCbx5s++f Uwcxw+L89v0+/Rz4pFiSULXqKz14Riok+HKiZIVYItqTfG4B7mTOG6hlx2fuOI06Saw+ LFp3H8IPztm4GCYOx8slgK7oaU/z1ggvcDybOavoiqrA10a0seXf/n3mecdBvns6rAu6 mVjXng2hSnuVU9vixJVKhgRryTsBRbKKPdgAnu/ax4HP1CzmAYbqcEIMAs4cfcqzAj/x eRjg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=4tU/3jDvpFkjARNVIW3YW4ligPsCY0zP+aKTHm1xfms=; b=sloJTNf+Xgo3w+ubHg5sLyAxUjEHoRdqyMjFBlVVH1Lw2zZxKg4u27EUvuQS7CekiO mmLlXW44Z08V05wqMu4PaW4UHwCRJKYSRtXzAPeUhcMq1E3CQUgNievoIgP3vYqyoKKn dMN1JiLlQNwV2zdEXvwNKoFtCZ+G4Pc++YMbnqFzL+qgbKSQO2BJk+ZyVxWigCNQbLlt 6eQJXFCkknWOtoSjzn7VWWWKGSDwkjj5G8q+QK8tb96Ix7jfJKf1PGhc/rHQ9CjjBwkp 72h46HNCZ85TUuuNHiCSb5EDisYlKbFNxP2exFPqSbvMMv/jsdXPUGiFmu5Ja3h7pkYs s+Zg== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM530/y5DC7s2EX+77rJ45jePyALJqv9KvqUUK2vlC6UM5uzwUU7b4 MT39n8LmoO5EGUQ8ewutrZRkMyF7jZW4NwI/6yk= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxARkcplnJPGBJmiGVQku0ijhmhrU8QQMOOhBnASS5Xk2GZHgcoPA9nIodAEpQJ1ePaGmcaxSW4LKVVPwlWf+0= X-Received: by 2002:a2e:b057:: with SMTP id d23mr2781763ljl.157.1588966006138; Fri, 08 May 2020 12:26:46 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 2002:a05:6512:3047:0:0:0:0 with HTTP; Fri, 8 May 2020 12:26:45 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1906580709.96391.1588956432516@mail.vodafone.de> References: <1906580709.96391.1588956432516@mail.vodafone.de> From: PICCORO McKAY Lenz Date: Fri, 8 May 2020 15:26:45 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: lack of alpine policy of development tools, cuse lack of time for new collaborations To: Al Pi Cc: alpine-user Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" 2020-05-08 12:47 GMT-04:00, Al Pi : > Hello, > > this seems like a nice documentation writing stance, > to keep in mind: > (by a positive documentation example) > https://mxmanuals.s3.us-east-2.amazonaws.com/user_manual_mx16/mxum.html#toc-Subsection-1.2 i like that! due take note of the "whose manual start how to read this manual" that's the reason of the "use cases" wiki pages i created, easy to read without terminology alpine linux has many new terminology that not all "linux users" are familiar (those winbuntu shit that thinks are linux users) maybe the best are to advertise "you must have real knowledge of linux before try here" > When it comes to documentation for users, > mixing different things side by side together on wiki pages wikimedia are a shit! i cannot create common portions of pages to reuse like redmine does.. and use cases are the best option for users! by example not all the people have usb boot, also not all the users have a rPi device.. etc etc.. so i try to created a wiki install page for each case! its the best for new users! already working for others projects! > seems also hard to maintain, as it is to read, with > redundancy even worse. That may be why organized sections > that are kept short, and separate, as in the mxmanual > example above are so well browseable (in the manual-browser > preinstalled on the systems!, that havs a table of contents > navigation on the left side), in whichever context that's needed > by the reader. > > I find the alpine "Install" page organization has improved, > but I'm not sure if some of the further things are still > relevant. For example, if setting up apk cache is suggested > automatically, by setup-alpine if a device is found? > > With a good structure, that resembles the scripts and > tools, documenting changes could possibly be a simple > thing for devs to check/update/remove. (Even generating a > changelog from taged wiki edits maybe?) > Maybe the wiki could also show a TOC on a side bar, for > faster navigation. > > Kind Regards, > -Al > -- Lenz McKAY Gerardo (PICCORO) http://qgqlochekone.blogspot.com