Received: from mail-lf1-f52.google.com (mail-lf1-f52.google.com [209.85.167.52]) by nld3-dev1.alpinelinux.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 70EEE782BF7 for <~alpine/users@lists.alpinelinux.org>; Fri, 6 Mar 2020 12:33:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-lf1-f52.google.com with SMTP id p5so1770137lfc.7 for <~alpine/users@lists.alpinelinux.org>; Fri, 06 Mar 2020 04:33:43 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=V/HPVaOUzH7W/WM97xZ/FMoquwpLEi7aX/jtjEjOA5I=; b=IQXVPtoKl4X3SJqQLp3xyjsfDom281UMBNForoZgCl3h29adgdlCT7/JmCp5X/wDuz X/FopyHclHkujmmVU8WHC325jx2Fbt5vYcymMCbQx8XpW4bQQtxg+KGw1tEL3er7Oqjh +GbBwdAYPrvtp8JOYNlxGNMnB+j/H8gpynD4D7r/l1ySYUA/8EGCShSNZhbhP8JiNvvy SJeGsTbIILJW0pPdtiVY2OQK3TIGx2P0o+DtYcW8Ztsv/PdS8K/yNLaUx3TrMqwGkIel BEXmlGt1HxMiUj6ipp60NaNROTfmHApue/4UcJSXnOqUKs6iAPIzB3khGY8r7/eatHSn DnPQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=V/HPVaOUzH7W/WM97xZ/FMoquwpLEi7aX/jtjEjOA5I=; b=U6+XezDx85duql3jtB54XUi5071/wFqzxfV3Gc/mNTdWdTvGxdq49GyvKwPWvapc98 Qz9TyckHH15I2ZC+Ea5fkTHwsTpsu0bxcVbf7ZyXiP3yXT8+nO5AhXHVyVr7J04f9fVa lgOcNWnrbcCRYWsNQdRZX57NmNKubXhLnhoCRtiR623JrW75VRknc4EYp4306iX/K1NV awucvRxmUEVh6rER9NZUrte4Pqd2bI5NWITmRbOfvKMG8gmlgXWZmR5wVqG67MTpCqcW dHKD0uRWy2vxSrrJ2bNtw7MdDiR9oi39fBfplIGYxvOvwTlO7sH3zs0pYoPke2wup+h5 G0MA== X-Gm-Message-State: ANhLgQ0NCoxE7ymSOPe5D36+W0erIH3zoN5uDzLoFjQXm5KNK3d1M/PD D78VvX5GfXO+9iAvWKyLraNnV90+YB5Dhs6I7PWpoP8hgbk= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ADFU+vswOoXNKNHxVqAftWsln04QnFRecpGrifrDkLjhmsSe6Bzy3IwUuj9+8twD/i4Je/+w9yUVIxdJPURFingHbus= X-Received: by 2002:a19:f00c:: with SMTP id p12mr1814433lfc.39.1583498021736; Fri, 06 Mar 2020 04:33:41 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: PICCORO McKAY Lenz Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2020 08:02:33 -0430 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [Wiki] Question about proper styling To: Erazem Kokot Cc: ~alpine/users@lists.alpinelinux.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000016936c05a02edd3d" --00000000000016936c05a02edd3d Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I am the editor of those pages, and considering they are the only pages with information coordinated and property sequenced (since the whole wiki is a mess of scattered pages) I will clarify many things: 1. The whole website has no order, actually until I made those pages there was no sequence for new users, there is only the installation sequence that seems more for experts, taking into account that the two most used programs in that field (apk and setup-install and their partners) are poorly documented 2. 90% of all pages have out-of-date and "in-progress" information that is never fully progressed. 3. *I don't use the format because noting all these defects, it doesn't make sense to use something that will change in the future or won't have continuity so I used something that was 100% portable between systems or wiki migrations.* The writing is missing a lot, it's because I'm doing the base documentation with a Russian and a Spanish person, and it's difficult to coordinate both languages, for example how should be the things we compare these two pages: https://wiki.alpinelinux.org/wiki/Production_Web_server:_Lighttpd agains that: https://wiki.alpinelinux.org/wiki/Lighttpd *this lasted is very brief, vague and undocumented, seems you have some interest in make something good, then i proposed coordinate with me, but there's a problem:* *wikimedia are a mess due many information will must be duplicated.. so i stop to make some redacction (and only pust now production made ones) due redmine can re-use parts of wiki, reduciong the time writing work* Lenz McKAY Gerardo (PICCORO) http://qgqlochekone.blogspot.com El vie., 6 de mar. de 2020 a la(s) 07:05, Erazem Kokot (contact@erazem.eu) escribi=C3=B3: > Hi, > > I've been editing a few Wiki pages today (new user) and I came across > "Alpine newbie apk packages" [0]. > I edited it, getting used to the formatting (
 and such),
> but when I checked the Templates, it seems Cmd or Codeline might be
> better for the specific part of the article.
>
> So my questions are:
>
> 1. Should I use the proposed templates or is there a reason for the
> article using 
 ?
> 2. Can I propose the article name be changed to something like "General
> recommendations" - as it is on the Arch Wiki, or "Post-installation
> recommendations" ?
> 3. Is there a guideline for heading sizes:
>         the "Network configuration" part uses '=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D',
>         while '=3D=3D' should be enough.
> 4. Is help still needed for "Developing style, formatting, ..." as
> listed on the wiki and who can I contact about helping there?
>
> Thanks for the replies.
>
> Regards,
> Erazem K.
>
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> [0] https://wiki.alpinelinux.org/wiki/Alpine_newbie_apk_packages
>

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I am the editor of those pages, and considering they =
are the only pages with information coordinated and property sequenced (sin=
ce the whole wiki is a mess of scattered pages) I will clarify many things:=


1. The whole website has no order, actually until I made those page=
s there was no sequence for new users, there is only the installation seque=
nce that seems more for experts, taking into account that the two most used=
 programs in that field (apk and setup-install and their partners) are poor=
ly documented
2. 90% of all pages have out-of-date and "in-progress=
" information that is never fully progressed.
3. I don't use=
 the format because noting all these defects, it doesn't make sense to =
use something that will change in the future or won't have continuity s=
o I used something that was 100% portable between systems or wiki migration=
s.

The writing is missing a lot, it's because I'm doing =
the base documentation with a Russian and a Spanish person, and it's di=
fficult to coordinate both languages, for example how should be the things =
we compare these two pages:

https://wiki.alpinelinux.org/wiki/Pro=
duction_Web_server:_Lighttpd

agains that:

https://wiki.alpinelinux.org/wiki/L=
ighttpd

this lasted is very brief, vague and undocumented, se=
ems you have some interest in make something good, then i proposed coordina=
te with me, but there's a problem:

=
wikimedia are a mess due many information will must be duplicated.. so i=
 stop to make some redacction (and only pust now production made ones) due =
redmine can re-use parts of wiki, reduciong the time writing work
=



Lenz McKAY Ge=
rardo (PICCORO)


El vie., 6 de mar. de 2020 a la(s) 07:05, Era=
zem Kokot (contact@erazem.eu) escr=
ibi=C3=B3:
Hi,


I've been editing a few Wiki pages today (new user) and I came across
"Alpine newbie apk packages" [0].

I edited it, getting used to the formatting (<pre> and such),

but when I checked the Templates, it seems Cmd or Codeline might be

better for the specific part of the article.



So my questions are:



1. Should I use the proposed templates or is there a reason for the

article using <pre> ?

2. Can I propose the article name be changed to something like "Genera=
l

recommendations" - as it is on the Arch Wiki, or "Post-installati=
on

recommendations" ?

3. Is there a guideline for heading sizes:

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 the "Network configuration" part uses=
 '=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D',

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 while '=3D=3D' should be enough.

4. Is help still needed for "Developing style, formatting, ..." a=
s

listed on the wiki and who can I contact about helping there?



Thanks for the replies.



Regards,

Erazem K.



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[0] https://wiki.alpinelinux.org/wiki/Al=
pine_newbie_apk_packages




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