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Date: Wed, 01 Feb 2023 12:39:44 +0100
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Subject: Re: linux-lts vs. linux-edge
From: "alice" <alice@ayaya.dev>
To: "Christian Kujau" <lists@nerdbynature.de>
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On Wed Feb 1, 2023 at 11:47 AM CET, Christian Kujau wrote:
> On Tue, 31 Jan 2023, alice wrote:
> > lts follows latest lts, and edge follows latest stable. as mentioned in=
 the
>
> Which "lts" are you referring to? kernel.org has 5.15.91 declared as=20
> "longterm", latest stable is indeed 6.1.8 (well, 6.1.9 as of today).

https://kernel.org/, and i mentioned the 'exception'/reasoning in this
case (of it being changed early, on speculation of 6.1 being the next lts).

maybe that is wrong, and the next lts is 6.5. in that case it would be a (b=
ig)
mistake, and that sometimes happens. mitigate somewhat by the excuse of edg=
e
being edge, etc etc.

(and of course, might be a mistake in general anyway, to not just (always) =
wait
for the christening, but the list of features was.. quite exciting :-) so i
don't blame ncopa for it.)

>
> > other response, the intention was that 6.1 would be the next lts, ncopa=
 just
> > seemingly made that change early.
>
> Yes, that could be. However, as GregKH mentione before, only the=20
> pointy-hair-crystal-ball knows which versions will end up being LTS :-)
>
> > you say "are basically the same, and have been for some time", but it h=
as been
> > ~1.5 months since this specific upgrade, not multiple years of followin=
g the
>
> Ah, good to know. So both versions *were* actually different, I just=20
> looked at a time when both versions converged.
>
> > on top of that, the change is only **in the edge branch**. alpine indee=
d only
> > ships the latest lts in stable releases, nothing changed.
>
> That's true, that's the price of running -edge :-)

as mentioned, you could totally import linux-lts from 3.17, e.g.:

$ cat /etc/apk/repositories
...
@3.17-main http://dl-cdn.alpinelinux.org/alpine/v3.17/main
...

$ apk add linux-lts@3.17-main

don't use it for anything else or for any normal packages of course, but th=
at
should be okay (for now.)

>
> Thanks for responding,
> Christian.
>
> [0] https://people.kernel.org/gregkh/next-long-term-supported-kernel-rele=
ase
> --=20
> BOFH excuse #174:
>
> Backbone adjustment