Received: from w1.tutanota.de (w1.tutanota.de [81.3.6.162]) by nld3-dev1.alpinelinux.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 89C26782C14 for <~alpine/users@lists.alpinelinux.org>; Mon, 23 Aug 2021 02:33:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from w3.tutanota.de (unknown [192.168.1.164]) by w1.tutanota.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9811CFA0389; Mon, 23 Aug 2021 02:33:17 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; t=1629685997; s=s1; d=tutanota.com; h=From:From:To:To:Subject:Subject:Content-Description:Content-ID:Content-Type:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Cc:Cc:Date:Date:In-Reply-To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:MIME-Version:Message-ID:Message-ID:Reply-To:References:References:Sender; bh=UEx+ZoESX5ALvqCxRflycl8MdqR8fzuMaCYRJ9OMiHo=; b=p/XUE2P6Kv+QDkSPCuuWExpFF7oouZKt8OjkJU8FESmxr26FMDizkzIkrSe50B5u uwKiL+7dfgxC3MctFbAKhHlAk0dNchbzH7s5u5y3DVPLLdG3nVvWXNwdD8aK3B8e10y Bin3QOP2MYEySSBvY0iUUfc0mETvdx7RIygWvZ6KkJW0Hp5H8TKWGavlhn0Ei9u2JAI UZX3vOUzsgzyJ9eDJoI8lXTrCtpu1pAMlaQRqaupDnSGzuPJW3wzmTIRJ+br4xlqO26 00zbjSJPyzuoRbyQOwNK77NwNBMhs0Pztj3HVB/qnIKcjp6/82/ukfe/GvqIx1b5Q0W vz6e/uQtkQ== Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2021 04:33:17 +0200 (CEST) From: tcll5850@tutanota.com To: Wolf Cc: ~alpine/users <~alpine/users@lists.alpinelinux.org> Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20210822143829.xhclgqtwiehezvsn@mail.wolfsden.cz> References:

<20210822143829.xhclgqtwiehezvsn@mail.wolfsden.cz> Subject: Re: your installer is not very intuitive for manual drive setup MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_112546_253972849.1629685997604" ------=_Part_112546_253972849.1629685997604 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit well, to state things quickly... XMPP does everything Matrix does, 10x better than Matrix IRC only does roughly 10% of what Matrix does, and is much less secure (encryption pretty much doesn't exist) for example, both XMPP and Matrix offer federation, though Matrix relies heavily on matrix.org for some reason...IRC doesn't federate afaik. both XMPP and Matrix also offer text styling and up to embedded content, unlike IRC afaik. as for resolving issues or whatever with discussion images can greatly help describe an issue to resolve it much quicker. ;) -- Sent with Tutanota, the secure & ad-free mailbox. Aug 22, 2021, 10:38 AM by wolf@wolfsden.cz: > On 2021-08-19 23:33:27 +0200, tcll5850@tutanota.com wrote: > >> PS: how come you guys don't offer a better form of contact than IRC or Twitter... >> such as XMPP or at least Matrix?? >> > > What is wrong with IRC? Not sure what XMPP buys you on top of it in the > context for this usage... > > W. > > -- > There are only two hard things in Computer Science: > cache invalidation, naming things and off-by-one errors. > ------=_Part_112546_253972849.1629685997604 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

well, to state things quickly...

XMPP does everything Matrix does, 10x better than Matrix<= br>IRC only does roughly 10% of what Matrix does, and is much less secure (= encryption pretty much doesn't exist)

for exampl= e, both XMPP and Matrix offer federation, though Matrix relies heavily on m= atrix.org for some reason...

IRC doesn't federate af= aik.

both XMPP and M= atrix also offer text styling and up to embedded content, unlike IRC afaik.=

as for r= esolving issues or whatever with discussion

imag= es can greatly help describe an issue to resolve it much quicker. ;)

Sent with Tutanota, = the secure & ad-free mailbox.

<= div>

Aug 22, 2021, 10:38 AM by wolf@wolfsden.cz:

On 2021-08-19 23:33:27 +0200, t= cll5850@tutanota.com wrote:

PS: how come you guys= don't offer a better form of contact than IRC or Twitter...
= such as XMPP or at least Matrix??

What is wrong with IRC? Not sure what XMPP buys you on top of it in the

context for this usage...

There are only two hard things in= Computer Science:

cache invalidation, naming things and off-= by-one errors.

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