Received: from mail.w13.tutanota.de (mail.w13.tutanota.de [185.205.69.213]) by gbr-app-1.alpinelinux.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A5DF422599C for <~alpine/users@lists.alpinelinux.org>; Thu, 19 Sep 2024 05:49:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from tutadb.w10.tutanota.de (w10.api.tuta.com [IPv6:fd:ac::d:10]) by mail.w13.tutanota.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60C5522DF114; Thu, 19 Sep 2024 07:48:57 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; t=1726724937; s=s1; d=tuta.io; h=From:From:To:To:Subject:Subject:Content-Description:Content-ID:Content-Type:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Cc:Cc:Date:Date:In-Reply-To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:MIME-Version:Message-ID:Message-ID:Reply-To:References:References:Sender; bh=JVrIKFOYegJqnMUvnb1BWrME7yDFFc+DEd0Bm/bpOFc=; b=BT78TQVZ3WUQEsNQtbr7oHM6RDDlnajUO3XUJeKbznxKPRb28EpsatFJmoz6is1y LAj6PDo6SVgeSprqu61Se7W+VC8N3kDQ0L6y/akjrrWXoUqx34Bs+lxM5MBWWQCgZCP CUu9ezEsSR7nc3+jcCFAXbUCN+ld5uaBCOVV/IaXt2nymHqdvhXRAHfuT923VP4fK9o I2hjLdQ546XQglVyGjbQuRt/uuGdWGHW/VWveQSAu40kXXQE0sliPCWACFxxZ99hzva OYuHa/HW9U3kQCoSC3WjzwukfLpOHt5diOO/RkWXoYK1kT+8cTKXJUsz4WSVyLgheR7 AfPHQJBRIA== Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2024 07:48:57 +0200 (CEST) From: kdmw.629@tuta.io To: Ralf Mardorf Cc: ~alpine/users <~alpine/users@lists.alpinelinux.org> Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: <5ed4f8e4e4952161908a9d9f25aaf10283159264.camel@riseup.net> Subject: Re: Discussion - Is Alpine Linux still a more secure Linux Distribution compared to its compatriots MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_87511_1033115229.1726724937390" ------=_Part_87511_1033115229.1726724937390 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit If the aim is to prevent tracking and be a little more secure in terms of interception of communications then pagers might be good alternatives. Especially if two way communications is not required. Sort of a top-down broadcast messaging approach. A smartphone can also be safe provided it is not built by FBI sponsored shell company and touted as a secure encrypted device. If we do not want to be tracked on a smartphone, remove the installed OS and use a mod. Keep Bluetooth, Location and Wifi off. Use only signal or telegram and talk in code even on signal or telegram. However this is a discussion about Linux distros. The point that I was trying to make was that other Distros have caught up or in certain aspects gone past Alpine Linux OOTB in terms of security. And the distro selection plays an important role. Many of us do not want to compile the Kernel only for the hardware required with the GCC flags targeted towards one particular generation of CPU architecture, like Zen, Tiger Lake, Silver Lake, etc. Many users want to start with something similar to Alpine Linux standard and then built on top of that. So if that is the case is there something additional in terms of security that Alpine Linux does that other distros do not do which make it stand out? This is just for information. I am not saying Alpine Linux should not be selected or it does not offer something. Nor am I challenging anyone's decision to use Alpine Linux. It is a good distro. And the decision to use Alpine Linux over say Debain/Fedora/Ubuntu is a good decision to make. -- Aficionado Sep 18, 2024, 21:11 by ralf-mardorf@riseup.net: > PPS: > > I was struggling with whether or not to write it. the following is not > meant as a silly joke, nor as a political statement. > > Which is safer, a smartphone or a pager? > > What I'm getting at is that the biggest security flaw of all is > believing that there is a best solution. > ------=_Part_87511_1033115229.1726724937390 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
If the aim is to prevent tracking and be a little more se= cure in terms of interception of communications then pagers might be good a= lternatives. Especially if two way communications is not required. Sort of = a top-down broadcast messaging approach.

A smartphone can also be safe provided it is not buil= t by FBI sponsored shell company and touted as a secure encrypted device. I= f we do not want to be tracked on a smartphone, remove the installed OS and= use a mod. Keep Bluetooth, Location and Wifi off. Use only signal or teleg= ram and talk in code even on signal or telegram.

However this is a discussion about Linux dist= ros. The point that I was trying to make was that other Distros have caught= up or in certain aspects gone past Alpine Linux OOTB in terms of security.= And the distro selection plays an important role. Many of us do not want t= o compile the Kernel only for the hardware required with the GCC flags targ= eted towards one particular generation of CPU architecture, like Zen, Tiger= Lake, Silver Lake, etc. Many users want to start with something similar to= Alpine Linux standard and then built on top of that.

So if that is the case is there something= additional in terms of security that Alpine Linux does that other distros = do not do which make it stand out? This is just for information.
=

I am not saying Alpine Linux = should not be selected or it does not offer something. Nor am I challenging= anyone's decision to use Alpine Linux. It is a good distro. And the decisi= on to use Alpine Linux over say Debain/Fedora/Ubuntu is a good decision to = make.

--
= Aficionado

Sep 18, 2024, 2= 1:11 by ralf-mardorf@riseup.net:
PPS:

I was struggling with whether or not to write it. the following= is not
meant as a silly joke, nor as a politica= l statement.

Which i= s safer, a smartphone or a pager?

What I'm getting at is that the biggest security flaw of all = is
believing that there is a best solution.
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