Received: from mx0.riseup.net (mx0.riseup.net [198.252.153.6]) by gbr-app-1.alpinelinux.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C99CE2235F2 for <~alpine/users@lists.alpinelinux.org>; Thu, 2 Apr 2026 05:24:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fews01-sea.riseup.net (fews01-sea-pn.riseup.net [10.0.1.109]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by mx0.riseup.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4fmVdg4wnkz9tRm for <~alpine/users@lists.alpinelinux.org>; Thu, 2 Apr 2026 05:24:07 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=riseup.net; s=squak; t=1775107447; bh=f65JPx3zuJB5O8VsWrJsbQjho1TxcC87U8vxhX6/w2s=; h=Subject:From:To:Date:In-Reply-To:References:From; b=Su+JnsU4O8Iu7LvEgSYjV/KHUbfprjmZVwn1t2kacrLNaHd5/KPHbQXXJZ34pvZsy HgrB6mnXZyCzuRCyk9j3GlEUQQZGFN1ylFouJQMw4qDrPWvrsj2kZYHq8hKPY9MRHX SrwhOdplcQ07cXJ9AFM6BfvcfwuBosLLwn/NmXeo= X-Riseup-User-ID: AFC4746FD529972CC4A3655149C96BB7EBD8A7DBBB826F1490E05556A7147622 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fews01-sea.riseup.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4fmVdg03qXz22ql for <~alpine/users@lists.alpinelinux.org>; Thu, 2 Apr 2026 05:24:06 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: Subject: Re: Why'd you go with Alpine Linux? From: Ralf Mardorf To: ~alpine/users@lists.alpinelinux.org Date: Thu, 02 Apr 2026 07:24:04 +0200 In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Hi, I installed Alpine to get a sense of the limitations I would face if I ever found myself in the position of having to set up an embedded system. To set up a tailored OS for everyday use on my desktop PC, I chose Arch Linux, partly because it has a build system comparable to FreeBSD ports and probably the most up-to-date, comprehensive wiki. If I absolutely wanted to avoid systemd but also wanted to avoid the limitations of BusyBox and musl, I would probably consider Gentoo or something similar. In any case, you can customize Ubuntu yourself to be similar to Alpine or Arch by choosing the simplest installation option (server or something similar) then deselecting everything else you can in the installer, and after installation, immediately disabling all the systemd services that aren=E2=80=99t necessary. Starting from there, you=E2=80=99ll= have something like Alpine or Arch with Ubuntu, with the exception that building .deb packages is a bit of a hassle, but still doable. Regards, Ralf --=20 The Moon=E2=80=94forget all the nonsense they spread about it. It merely of= fers us more space for destruction, exploitation, and war. We=E2=80=99re destroy= ing a turnkey ready Earth and believe we can build new habitats on other celestial bodies and gain insights there. Bathing in champagne would be less arrogant and decadent=E2=80=94and, above all, cheaper.