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Alpine 'virt' iso offline and VM choice

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I want to install Alpine in a VM for a local server.

I noticed that the 'virt' iso can't be installed on disk without downloading
some packages from the internet. That's annoying. What's the rationale behind
that?

If I used the 'extended' iso instead, would I be missing something compared to
'virt'?
It says the 'virt' iso is "optimized for virtual systems", so I wonder if it has
an advantage in terms of performance or resource usage.
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On Mon, 17 Aug 2026 08:26:31 +0000
Gilbert <gnuplus@atomicmail.io> wrote:

> I want to install Alpine in a VM for a local server.
> 
> I noticed that the 'virt' iso can't be installed on disk without downloading
> some packages from the internet. That's annoying. What's the rationale behind
> that?

The reasoning is that in most cases you would need to get *something*
from internet anyway, so then we can keep the alpine-virt release image
minimal by requiring that everything is downloaded from internet.
 
> If I used the 'extended' iso instead, would I be missing something
> compared to 'virt'?
> It says the 'virt' iso is "optimized for virtual systems", so I
> wonder if it has an advantage in terms of performance or resource
> usage.

You get a bigger kernel with support for a lot more, that you probably
don need in a VM. (sound drivers, wifi drivers, drivers for bare-metal
etc...)

Another option could be to use the cloud images, where you get a
pre-installed disk image.

-nc
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> The reasoning is that in most cases you would need to get *something*
> from internet anyway, so then we can keep the alpine-virt release image
> minimal by requiring that everything is downloaded from internet.


I see.
I don't like it, because I think saving some megabytes on the iso size provides
little value.
And on the other hand it annoys people like me who prefer to install offline.
I hope you reconsider it.
But thanks for the response and have a nice day!
On Mon, Aug 17, 2026 at 1:12 PM, Natanael Copa
<> wrote:

> On Mon, 17 Aug 2026 08:26:31 +0000
> Gilbert <gnuplus@atomicmail.io> wrote:
> 
> > I want to install Alpine in a VM for a local server.
> >
> > I noticed that the 'virt' iso can't be installed on disk without downloading
> > some packages from the internet. That's annoying. What's the rationale
> behind
> > that?
> 
> The reasoning is that in most cases you would need to get *something*
> from internet anyway, so then we can keep the alpine-virt release image
> minimal by requiring that everything is downloaded from internet.
> 
> > If I used the 'extended' iso instead, would I be missing something
> > compared to 'virt'?
> > It says the 'virt' iso is "optimized for virtual systems", so I
> > wonder if it has an advantage in terms of performance or resource
> > usage.
> 
> You get a bigger kernel with support for a lot more, that you probably
> don need in a VM. (sound drivers, wifi drivers, drivers for bare-metal
> etc...)
> 
> Another option could be to use the cloud images, where you get a
> pre-installed disk image.
> 
> -nc
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