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[alpine-user] Firefox and PulseAudio dependency

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Hi all,

I recently read that Firefox 52 stopped supporting ALSA backend[0].
For now, we have "oldstable" 45 ESR (EOL in June) and 51 that is
no longer supported. What are the plans for it? I suppose most
people here don't use PA, and don't want to. Will PaleMoon[1] make
its way to the repos? PaleMoon is basically Firefox 20-something,
forked and fixed.

Thanks

[0]:http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/03/firefox-52-no-sound-pulseaudio-alsa-linux
[1]:http://www.palemoon.org/
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caóc



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Natanael Copa wrote:

> Does pulseaudio even work on Alpine?
> Does pulseaudio support musl libc?

It should, since it exists in the repos.

> What are the options we have?
> - drop firefox entirely
> - ship firefox without sound
> - provide pulseaudio?
> Other options?

I'd go with PaleMoon.

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Natanael Copa <ncopa@alpinelinux.org>
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On Thu, 30 Mar 2017 09:55:32 +0000
Cág <ca6c@bitmessage.ch> wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> I recently read that Firefox 52 stopped supporting ALSA backend[0].
> For now, we have "oldstable" 45 ESR (EOL in June) and 51 that is
> no longer supported. What are the plans for it? I suppose most
> people here don't use PA, and don't want to. Will PaleMoon[1] make
> its way to the repos? PaleMoon is basically Firefox 20-something,
> forked and fixed.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> [0]:http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/03/firefox-52-no-sound-pulseaudio-alsa-linux
> [1]:http://www.palemoon.org/

Does pulseaudio even work on Alpine?

Does pulseaudio support musl libc?

What are the options we have?

- drop firefox entirely
- ship firefox without sound
- provide pulseaudio?

Other options?

-nc


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Harald Arnesen wrote:

> On the Devuan (Debian fork without systemd), apulse has been suggested
> as an alternative.

I think it is only creating another layer of bloat. If a piece of software
doesn't work without PA, I don't use it.

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Harald Arnesen <harald@skogtun.org>
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Natanael Copa [03/30/2017 02:01 PM]:

> What are the options we have?
> 
> - drop firefox entirely
> - ship firefox without sound
> - provide pulseaudio?
> 
> Other options?

On the Devuan (Debian fork without systemd), apulse has been suggested
as an alternative.
<https://github.com/i-rinat/apulse>.
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Hilsen Harald


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Hello,

On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 9:09 AM, Cág <ca6c@bitmessage.ch> wrote:
> Harald Arnesen wrote:
>
>> On the Devuan (Debian fork without systemd), apulse has been suggested
>> as an alternative.
>
> I think it is only creating another layer of bloat. If a piece of software
> doesn't work without PA, I don't use it.

Right now Firefox (i.e. 52) still supports the alsa backend when
explicitly built with it.

Firefox 52 is also planned to be the next ESR release.

I think increasingly we are going to see more software wanting to use
PulseAudio, so we are going to eventually have to provide a shim
implementation of some sort (but I do not think apulse is the one
we're looking for).

William


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